Comments on: St. Valentine’s Short Short Competition – Match #19 http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/ An online home for the steampunk movement in all its forms. Mon, 19 Jan 2015 05:28:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: John J. Gray http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39330 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:47:03 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39330 Well, im still out, but at least from here on out everyone will have a fair shake in the matter, im happy with that. Good luck to everyone still left in, and if you do another contest like this id certainly love to enter it.

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By: GoldfishGal http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39281 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:51:51 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39281 Thanks very much for your attention to the issue, it takes a load off my mind.

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By: jrrl http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39166 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:33:15 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39166 I understand, John, and I did go back to look at that match once you brought this to my attention. Votes were cast from 40 different IP addresses in that match. Assuming your total of 17 is correct, that would still leave 23 for the other story, leaving us with the same result.

Now, one could argue that someone cheating should be disqualified, but there are two problems there:

First, as you pointed out, the software I used (and for which I again apologize) did not offer so much as a “tut tut” for revoting, which could have led someone to (somehow) think it was okay. After all, in TV call-in vote competitions, you can vote as often as you want (zero times for me, thanks).

Second, I do not know that it was the author who was cheating. A well-meaning spouse, sibling, parent, etc. could have done it on their behalf and it feels wrong for someone to be disqualified because of someone else’s activity. For example, it would mean one author could disqualify another by overvoting for them. Not a good situation.

Another option would be not to count any obviously cheating voters. Again, however, it is hard to be certain that someone intentially overvoted. It seems that without the feedback from the page, someone could accidentally vote twice or even three times without being sure their vote was counted. In the case of your match, there were three voters who had more than three votes, so we are still left with 20-17 as a final count. If we only allow one accidental vote before penalizing, five voters are disqualified, so we get to 18-17.

I spent much of the afternoon rationalizing what I could find in the server logs and the scant plugin data (it keeps almost nothing unlike the one I switched to). I can only reassure you that before I run another competition like this (and I am current in no hurry to do so given these shenanigans), I’ll be rolling my own plugin to (a) make sure people behave and (b) automate a lot of this so it isn’t such a chore to run. I picked the other plugin in haste, due to time being split hard between work and the kids and I chose poorly. I do not intend to get bitten thus again.

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By: John J. Gray http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39157 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:33:09 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39157 The main reason it came to notice was when I lost. I hate to sound like a sore loser, but it did seem odd that no other person has gotten anywhere near that amount of votes for a story. I don’t think anyone else has had over 30 votes even.

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By: jrrl http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39111 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:48:50 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39111 It have combed through the logs and removed any duplicate votes, whether cast intentionally or otherwise. I have also changed which plugin is being used to run these polls, being careful to maintain the corrected counts from the old software. My apologies.

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By: GoldfishGal http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39072 Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:17:14 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39072 Yeah, it’s the same for me. Is that going to be policed?

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By: jrrl http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39052 Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:40:51 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39052 Crap. I’ll try to make sure that isn’t happening. I’ll need to write my own voting plugin if I do this again. Thanks for the head’s up.

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By: John J. Gray http://www.steampunk.com/st-valentines-short-short-competition-match-19/comment-page-1/#comment-39043 Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:04:21 +0000 http://www.steampunk.com/?p=2895#comment-39043 There seems to be an issue with your voting system. If I refresh the page in my browser, then I can just vote again, and again, and again, not that I did but I thought I should let you know that it may be happening.

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